Posted 2023-01-14 | Back to 2023 archive
My HARD OFF Megathread!
HARD OFF is my favorite store ever. It's a Japanese chain of tech thrift stores that will buy your junk and resell it. There's also OFF HOUSE (clothes/household items), the confusingly unrelated BOOK OFF (used books, games and other media), LIQUOR OFF, etc
I'll start off by posting some overview photos of what kind of stuff you can find there, and then start following up whenever I find something interesting
Let's go!
I'll start off with some games stuff before getting into the PC, camera and AV gear.
Of course they have all your old game consoles from the famicom onward, including handhelds. I've seen untested Disk Systems go for 1000 yen.
Piles of controllers of course, as well as lots of games.
Not pictured: blue bins full of random unpopular games from Famicom to PS3. Accessories like PAX Powergloves, drum controllers, etc.
Now on to my favorite part: the computer hardware!
Fist of all they sell old PCs. Macs do show up here, usually flat panel iMacs and PowerMac G5s/Mac Pros, but I've also got a PM 8500, a PB G3 Wallstreet, and a sunflower iMac here.
They also have bins full of accessories and cables, anything you could need. Firewire cables, SCSI terminators, I even found the Serial to 2,5mm cable I needed for a APC UPS network card in here!
If you're not into pre-built PCs, they have everything you need to build your own!
Piles of dubious old motherboards, piles of CPUs of unknown pedigree, piles of RAM, piles of terrifyingly lightweight PSUs - it's all here!
Also catered to are all your internal storage needs - be it spinning rust hard disks or optical drives. I did run across a SCSI DVD drive here once that I nabbed but otherwise it's mostly SATA with the occasional PATA
Laptop users aren't left out, with a wide selection of PCMCIA cards mostly missing their dongle cords that are required to actually use any of the non-WiFi ones
As for networking there are also piles of hubs, switches and home internet routers, with the occasional dial-up modem
As for storage media, you have your obsolete memory cards here, as well as any kind of common tape or disc format (not pictured: the MO disks)
In addition to the computer cables, they also have any kind of AV or antenna cable you could need, mixed in with piles of busted old cassette and CD walkmen.
Lately I've also seen a lot of 8mm film playback equipment
Which brings us to the camera stuff.
They have bins full of 35mm camera bodies (not pictured, sorry), P&S cameras, handycams, mouldy old lenses and hot shoe flashes. They even have a bin full of the chargers for those proprietary camera batteries!
Finally it's the Audio-Visual gear!
They have everything to set up a 90's home Hi-Fi, from amps to speakers to record players.
If you just want a small boombox for the office they have no end to those either. Many with built-in minidisc players!
On the video end of things, there are piles and pile of DVD players, Blu-ray players and DVRs. With a handful of VHS, Betamax and laserdisc players mixed in for good measure. This is also where I first saw VHD before the Techmoan video on it!
Also popped in a photo of some mini-stereos that I liked the look of but didn't fit in the previous toot!
Occasionally some oddball stuff shows up - some professional U-Matic/Betacam decks, or really really massive concert hall speakers.
There's also a music section with things like mixer boards and guitar amps.
Some more stuff that didn't fit into any theme above, including The DankPods Cashies aisle
That's it for now!!
When I'm in the mood I'll add in some specific interesting things I've run across or bought.
I try to drop by every other week or so to see if anything fun has showed up, and when I see something I'll be sure to post it!
I forgot to post the most important thing!
I just dropped by a HARD OFF I hadn't been to before, which is in a smaller town than the city where I live.
And right before I was going to leave I spotted this little boy on the bottom shelf!
The plastics are brittle and there's rust on ths shielding, but the battery is intact, and at a first glance there don't even seem to be any green fuzzies on the pads around the caps!
I had to rescue him, he's coming home with me!
One more thing I picked up was this 22" Cinema Display M8149 that went for 550 yen! I have a friend who wants to use it as a (working) prop in a video. For 500 yen even if it doesn't work it's no huge loss.
Presumably it's so cheap because an ADC display is useless for 99.9% of people.
Some other fun stuff I spotted today at the "new to me" HARD OFF
Chonky dot matrix printer that was gong for 5000 yen!
This store still sells HDDs and not only that but PATA ones!
A dual-CPU server motherboard from Supermicro
A Super Famicom modem
A portable VHS deck (presumably for use with a pre-camcorder video camera)
This funky red Betamax deck and a video wipe generator
A karaoke LaserDisc player with 5-song track selection
A US-spec closed captions decoder??
I went to a new (to me) HARD OFF today and spotted a Wacom tablet. There are always lots of Wacom tablets and they're always USB, but wait a second… that looks like a miniDIN plug… and… isn't that an ADB pass thru?
Yes indeed, today the MARCHintosh gods smiled upon me and now I am the proud owner of an ADB Wacom ArtPad II!
They also had a G4 and 2 G3s, but the G3s were in a sad state :(
Today in weird HARD OFF finds - a Windows XP laptop with no pointing device whatsoever! Anyone have any ideas what the use case for manufacturing a niche machine like this would be?
And as you can see there are no pop-out trackballs or mice or anything like that like on some older laptops.
Today I also ran across some useful Apple cables - a PowerBook HDI30 SCSI cable and a serial adapter that I both picked up
Big fan of this webpage I found about Fujitsu laptops with a GIF of a spinning logic board http://www.katch.ne.jp/~toshiaki/index0.html
Spotted today: this Wyse Cx0 Thin Client from 2011
A pair of combo AV devices: A dual Hi8 + SVHS player, and a dual LaserDisc + DVD player. With these two you're all set!
Pretty sure my parents had this same woodgrain cassette tape drawer, maybe with different branding
Japan has always had a low adoption rate of home PCs so whenever I see a product like this I wonder if they also sold well elsewhere? This is a DVD burner you can hook up directly to a video camera or digital still camera to burn your videos to disc without a PC. It even supports burning HD video to AVCHD DVDs
I get that they're desperate to put "smarts" into everything these days who but ever asked for a smart *egg*?!?!
Yeah well *I* mouse with a sports car, do you?
A product category I had never heard of before - an automatic watch winder
A working laser disc player for $35... If only I had the space.
The current state of the game consoles aisle
Todays haul
I believe the "Picture & Music content" is the same as the ones LGR had https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyM7qV1tKVA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu_UB9okkOc
They also had a laserdisc head cleaner disk (that I did not buy)
A Sharp CE-150TS RS-232 level converter for connecting a Sharp Zaurus to a computer, complete with Mac serial port.
A pile of old Cisco gear - some 7301s, 2800-series, etc
A “KLAUS 3000PF”, described as “EEG Measuring Instrument”, whatever the heck that is???
Googling it looks like some kind of pseudoscience BS like what cults would use: “Feedback sounds are used to enable alpha training. This makes it possible to self-control changes in your own psychological and physiological state, which is difficult to recognize on a daily basis, according to the situation.”
And the last item for today, an Apple Mighty Mouse. I actually bought this one and brought it home.
Today they had a NTT picture phone from 1988!
Looking at the button layout, I think this is the same device that Techmoan took a look at https://youtu.be/8_Yz0TT439Q
They also had this neat-looking Fujitsu OASYS 30 AX II Network word processor. The dark lid in the top is a dot-matrix printer.
Looking it up, this model is from 1990 and it sounds like they had a PC98 architecture and could also run MS-DOS even if it wasn't officially supported
And finally the reason I went today in the first place - a charging cable for my old SoftBank galakei
Also they had some old film
Went to HARDOFF to pick something up, and ran across this beauty… a Palm IIIc for $15! Complete with a keyboard, Pilot Pentopia stylus, modem, mobile phone data adapter and a pair of chargers.
The store description said "the display is somewhat dark” but I think the staff just don't know how to adjust the brightness on a Palm, after long-pressing the power button and adjusting it up it looks gorgeous!
Power and Datebook buttons are stiff. Puffy battery?
Opened it up and yeah, my boy is a little puffy…
Also I cracked the frame when opening it 🤦🏼♂️
Also wtf? The black cockroach? Was that a palm codename?
It looks like HARD OFF are also participating in MARCHinitosh with this Power Mac 9600 for sale. It's been a long time since I saw a beige Mac at HARD OFF!
Very tempting to pick up but looking at that yellowing, I feel like just by staring at it for too long the plastics will crack, so I left it in place!!
There was also this G4 looking for a home, I'm happy with my Quicksilver 2002 that I already have at home so I left this one as well!
I feel like the amount of Mac-formatted Magneto Optical discs have multiplying…
Densha de go train controller! If I was a game player I would have got this…
Some gorgeous old test equipment
What I actually ended up picking up:
* Apple DVI to ADC adapter for $4
* Cisco serial console cable for under $1
* Evangelion themed speakers (AA-powered) for $4
This pile of networking gear from cisco, juniper and NEC has been at this HARD OFF for nearly a year now. 56k, ISDN and PoE all in one device, what sysadmin could resist?!?
In speaker news they have 30 pairs(!) of Onkyo speakers for some reason.
And aren't those Yamaha speakers with the white cones supposed to be special? Like legendary monitors to music production specifically because they sound bad so they bring out any flaws in the mix?
Also this guy is still here...
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Ummm… WTF???
(this one is getting its own thread once I get it home and take a closer look)
Now THIS is a camcorder!
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I guess the obsession with small handheld thermal printers isn't anything new…
If it wasn't Windows only I'd have picked up this CASIO freedio
edit: I might actually have a digital camera that supports IrTran-P... Hmm...
This thing was also pretty tempting - an "MPEG-4 Network Server”, basically an ethernet webcam, which advertises support for streaming to QuickTime 6.3, Pocket PC, or your old Japanese i-mode flip phone.
It even supports networking via CompactFlash Wi-Fi or cellular (PHS) cards
Looks like the Dynamic DNS service for this thing was still supported up until until a year ago! https://www.iodata.jp/support/information/2024/05_iobb/index.htm
Picked up this Cisco router today not for the router but for the PCMCIA flash card
An on-the-spot phone web search lead me to believe it was a Linear Flash card rather than ATA. All the results were generic SEO slop though so I wouldn't know until I tried it.
Sadly, it turned out I was wrong… My eMate 300 did NOT recognize the card, and my PowerBook G3 DID recognize it as a disk which it wants to format. Boo-hoo!
Is there any value in a specific version of a Cisco firmware or can I wipe it?
